tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21605329.post3940317151500339207..comments2024-03-22T00:30:09.536-07:00Comments on The Neurocritic: Bothered by Negative, Unwanted Thoughts? Throwing Them Away Doesn't HelpThe Neurocritichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08010555869208208621noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21605329.post-6648335231694958352012-12-11T01:05:55.897-08:002012-12-11T01:05:55.897-08:00I love stuff like this. I love asking about the sp...I love stuff like this. I love asking about the specifics of how someone came to make a statement based on a 'study' and that more often than not their interpretation misconstrued the actual data collected.Kaitlyn S. C Hatchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08445361760658470586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21605329.post-1094724698161349122012-12-05T15:02:22.208-08:002012-12-05T15:02:22.208-08:00Thanks for pointing out many other problems with t...Thanks for pointing out many other problems with this study, especially from a therapeutic point of view. Findings like these are often interpreted as revealing the mechanisms of how cognitive therapies work. But it's really not so simple.<br /><br />Anonymous of December 04, 2012 5:20AM - I'm not encouraged by this <a href="http://psychsciencenotes.blogspot.com/2012/11/psychological-sciencemeet-me-at-camera-3.html" rel="nofollow">statement</a> from the outgoing Editor:<br /><br /><i>"...the ideal Psychological Science manuscript is difficult to define, but easily recognized — the topic is fundamental to the field, the design is elegant, and the findings are breathtaking."</i>The Neurocritichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08010555869208208621noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21605329.post-73284666235074231222012-12-04T05:20:04.488-08:002012-12-04T05:20:04.488-08:00The editorial board of Psychological Science has b...The editorial board of Psychological Science has been infested by a certain category of social psychologists that lets in this type of nonsense. We just have to wait until they all go down the Stapel and Smeesters way, I'm afraid.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21605329.post-70728303026327260142012-12-02T12:27:18.793-08:002012-12-02T12:27:18.793-08:00I think that if there is not an actual problem, ma...I think that if there is not an actual problem, making people think about their body image can bring undesired thoughts; it is possible that because of the thinking process, the person become more conscious about things they don't like about their bodies, and by the time they try to throw away those thoughts it doesn't work. Now, if there is an pre-existent problem, like a bad memory, or a disorder, talking about it, writing about it and analyzing the issue, can bring some relief to the person and some thoughts may be discharged. <br />My point here is that we don't need to put more negative thoughts in the head of people, we don't want to promote thinking about negative things, and I think that was the problem with the experiment, they could work with people who already have a misperception of their bodies and see how much improvement in their own perception they can get after the therapy. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21605329.post-5560761689542532332012-12-02T12:19:07.345-08:002012-12-02T12:19:07.345-08:00I feel that in these experiments they were using c...I feel that in these experiments they were using cognitive therapies. Cognitive therapy focuses on changing the client's unrealistic and maladaptive beliefs. I feel like this method of therapy would not work in this situation because the thoughts might not be gone forever and the person's beliefs are not being changed just being set aside.Lindsey Robinsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21605329.post-72828221020113185472012-11-30T00:20:41.890-08:002012-11-30T00:20:41.890-08:00That press release should go where it belongs from...That press release should go where it belongs from now on - into the dustbin of the history of crap scienceNeuroskeptichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06647064768789308157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21605329.post-88270795898602075642012-11-29T14:40:02.838-08:002012-11-29T14:40:02.838-08:00I read this article twice and I still don't ge...I read this article twice and I still don't get it. The only thing I got was that the writing the thought on a piece of paper and then binning it did not work. I don't know why anybody would have thought it would anyway. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21605329.post-22413822547413416072012-11-28T16:19:58.914-08:002012-11-28T16:19:58.914-08:00I've got a handful of studies, including some ...I've got a handful of studies, including some studies on journaling that Harvard shrink td wilson helped popularize that would put the science daily interpretation in the trash. I was disappointed to see this study popularized, thanks for taking the time to drop kick it.Robert C Singler Jrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12530342095906433903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21605329.post-89782887738056305012012-11-28T06:39:20.418-08:002012-11-28T06:39:20.418-08:00Well, duh. Inducing thoughts about body image for ...Well, duh. Inducing thoughts about body image for three minutes, then throwing the negative ones away isn't going to do much of anything. Those students who perceive themselves negatively will generate negative thoughts, and the converse is true for students with a positive self image. The simple act of throwing negative thoughts away impacts the underlying <i>cause</i> of the negative thoughts not one whit.<br /><br />Using a visualization technique such as thought-disposal is part of a larger construct that takes place in a therapeutic setting with appropriate client/therapist interaction. Through that process, the client learns how to discard negative thoughts arising from a cognitive distortion. The technique is not associated with improving perception of the <i>problem</i> (in this case negative body image), but rather taking away the power of the thoughts to initiate a self-critical cycle which ends in observable behaviours associated with self-loathing. Resolving the underlying issue banishes the source of the negative thoughts and the garbage can is no longer needed.<br /><br />This study tells us exactly nothing. :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com