Friday, May 12, 2006

Are Daydreams Different in Autistic Minds?

Here's another one all over the news but not yet posted by PNAS.

PEOPLE with autism seem not to daydream in the way that other people do.

When the minds of non-autistic people are "idle", a network within the brain involved in social and emotional thought is, in fact, active. People often drift into daydreams at these times, but when we have to concentrate on a task, we suppress daydreaming.

A team from the University of California at San Diego used functional MRI to show that while this network is more active in non-autistic people when their brains are resting than carrying out a cognitive test, there is no difference between the active and resting brains of people with autism (Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, DOI: 10.1073/pnas.0600674103).

[Go ahead, type in that identifier, you won't find it.]

"The absence of this activity in autism might mean that they have a different sort of internal thought," says co-author Daniel Kennedy.

Nevertheless, it's good to see that a graduate student is quoted in the press.

Mind's 'Daydream' Centers May Hold Clues to Autism

THURSDAY, May 11 (HealthDay News) -- Stopped at a red light or waiting in a doctor's office, people's idle thoughts may focus on themselves, other people in their lives, nearby strangers or their plans for the day.

But a new brain-imaging study suggests the minds of autistic individuals do not engage in these "daydreams" about themselves or other people whenever their brains are free to wander.

. . .

The interconnected network of brain sites that supports daydreaming also "supports thinking about other people, emotional processing and the processing of familiar faces -- all things that we know are abnormal in autism at a behavioral level," said Daniel Kennedy, a graduate student in neurosciences and psychology at the University of California, San Diego, who conducted the work while at the Center for Autism Research at the Children's Hospital Research Center in La Jolla, Calif.
And the quality of information contained in this article is much better than most coverage I've seen in the popular press.

According to Kennedy, what people think of as daydreaming isn't a low-energy task, neurologically speaking.

"It's actually got a very high metabolism -- it's using lots of oxygen, glucose, the neurons are really firing," he said.

This activity is spread throughout a number of key sites in both the brain's executive centers in the forebrain, as well as areas toward the back of the brain. "It's a really distributed set of brain regions. That's why we call it a 'network,'" Kennedy said. "We call it a 'resting network;' other people have called it a 'default mode' of brain functioning."

In the normally functioning brain, this resting network tends to focus on the self or the self's interaction with others. "Some people think that maybe it has a lot to do with the construction of the self and self-awareness," Kennedy said.

He and [co-researcher Elizabeth] Redcay suspected the resting network might work differently in people with autism, however. First, they knew that studies of autistic brains had shown anatomical abnormalities in regions of the resting network. One area, the medial-frontal cortex, "actually grows too big and too fast" in people with autism, Kennedy said.

Autistic people also tend to have trouble with behaviors specifically linked to areas that make up the resting network -- social interactions, face processing and emotions.

. . .

In their experiments using functional (real-time) MRI scans, he and Redcay compared changes in brain-energy usage in 15 people with autism-spectrum disorders (ranging from autism to less-severe conditions such as Asperger's syndrome) vs. 14 healthy controls.

They first measured the brain activity of each study participant at rest. Then, they had each participant engage in the Stroop test -- a standard visual test of attention and cognition that has been used by experimental psychologists for decades. "Previous work has shown that autistics and non-autistics handle this task equally," Kennedy said.

As expected, the brains of healthy controls switched their focus of energy-usage away from the resting network to other cognitive centers as they struggled to solve the Stroop test.

"The resting network shuts down or 'deactivates,' so you can perform the task and let other regions take over," Kennedy explained.

But the researchers saw no such deactivation in the brains of autistic people. "The resting network shuts down in normal subjects, because it was already running high during rest. We didn't see a similar shutdown in autistic subjects -- because it wasn't ever there to begin with," he said.

In other words, it looks as if autistic people may not daydream -- at least not in the way non-autistic people do, Kennedy said.

"We also found that the more abnormal the neural activity in this resting network, the more abnormal their social behaviors," Kennedy said, suggesting that impairment of the resting network increases as autism becomes more severe.

So, what are autistic people thinking about when not engaged in specific tasks? Kennedy said that, so far, researchers have found it tough to get good answers to that question from severely impaired autistic individuals. "We do know, though, that they tend to have repetitive, stereotyped thoughts -- their attention is drawn to things like calendars, schedules, maps, computers -- rigid, concrete things," he said.

"We think that they probably have a much different internal process at rest," Kennedy said.

He stressed that the new findings don't answer the central question of what causes autism, although they do offer tantalizing clues.

"We know that autism is a neurodevelopmental disorder, so what's happening in the first couple years of life are going to be crucial to understanding what is causing autism," he said. "Right now, though, we know very little about this network in early development. In adults, these regions have an extremely high metabolism and use a high amount of energy. So, if that energy supply was cut off or impaired, you'd think that these regions might be the first to be affected," Kennedy said.

Non-neuroscientists and neuroscientists can actually learn something new (and informative) about autism and the brain from this article!

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At November 10, 2010 2:53 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It seems like scientists never actually talk to people with mental conditions in order to learn about the conditions.

What would really complete the article would be interviews of autistic people asking if they daydream and for them to describe their daydreams.

I've figured out I have Asperger's. I definitely do daydream, but it tends to be related to special interests more often than specific people or emotions. My special interests involve social sciences so I am often daydreaming about groups of people and sometimes nations and ethnic groups in society. I'm a bit of a paradox. I relate well to countries, minority groups, cultures, but when it comes to dealing with people as individuals I draw a blank.

At March 11, 2011 7:53 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

To anonymous. The scientists are not interested in the views of the millions and millions of internet-diagnosed "Aspergers sufferers". They are talking about people with genuine and severe autism who struggle to have conversations.

At April 05, 2012 5:01 PM, Blogger O'Flynns said...

I think the article refers just to people who are on the spectrum, not necessarily exclusively "severely autistic" people (I believe the misinformed poster above referred to this subgroup as "genuine")?
Interviews of people on the spectrum would definitely add something to this article.

At February 20, 2019 7:34 AM, Blogger Ameena said...

You clearly don’t know anything about autism. I have autism. I was diagnosed at 12. There is no such thing as severe or mild autism. I’m severe in some things and mild in others. Your statement is offensive to all people with autism.

At August 15, 2021 4:54 AM, Blogger Unknown said...

As a guy (diagnosed) with autism, I'm not offended.


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