tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21605329.post4091247455466644356..comments2024-03-14T23:52:09.893-07:00Comments on The Neurocritic: Eastern vs. Western emoticonsThe Neurocritichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08010555869208208621noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21605329.post-66788547923902467322009-08-26T07:38:56.138-07:002009-08-26T07:38:56.138-07:00Let me be blunt. First, "Lie To Me" is n...Let me be blunt. First, "Lie To Me" is not a good program. It's a horrible and misleading program. Second, in my opinion, Ekman has been overselling his methods lately, like many other senior CA professors.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21605329.post-18689240827534937522009-08-21T14:21:43.322-07:002009-08-21T14:21:43.322-07:00By the way, I have discovered a very good TV serie...By the way, I have discovered a very good TV serie on this theme: "Lie To Me" http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1235099/<br /><br />And an intriguing article on "Hereditary family signature of facial expression" based on an observation of 21 "blind from birth" volunteers and their family. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6055430.stm or http://actveng.haifa.ac.il/PDF/panim/PNAS_Gili.pdf<br /><br />(Thank you for your blog. :o))egogrammenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21605329.post-54731613029375145842009-08-19T16:09:01.968-07:002009-08-19T16:09:01.968-07:00The article is very interesting, but I was a bit t...The article is very interesting, but I was a bit turned off by the author's (unwarranted) criticism of Ekman. I don't see how this study disproves or even raises any questions about the validity of Ekman's theories. The "so-called" so-called FACS and Ekman's theories on the universality of facial expressions never claim a universality in people's <b>ability to read</b> these expressions.<br /><br />Quite the contrary: Ekman often talks about people's limited ability to read subtle facial expressions without proper training, the confusion between disgust and surprise, and yes: cultural differences.<br /><br />In fact, in one of his books, he does talk about Asian culture, and his findings that Japanese people are more prone to conceal certain emotions when in public. Could this account for this study's findings? -- the muscles of the mouth are easier to control than those of the eyes; in a culture where people are more likely to conceal their emotions, the mouth can be a rather unreliable source of information.<br /><br />So it's an interesting study, but contrary to what the author seems to think, it actually further supports many of Ekman's own findings, rather than raise any doubts over their validity. <br /><br />--<br />http://noamgr.wordpress.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21605329.post-87327266147148109432009-08-17T04:15:20.929-07:002009-08-17T04:15:20.929-07:00I had about the same remark as Paper. I am curious...I had about the same remark as Paper. I am curious about the way of these photographs have been taken: these ones in particuliar and the pictures used in studies in general. <br /><br />Are they in a real situation of anger/disgust/surprise/anger ? Or are they only mimicking these situations ? <br /><br />Are they alone in front of a screen/in the presence of a Eastern researcher/in the presence of Western researcher ? <br /><br />Are they told to <i>be expressive</i> ?egogrammenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21605329.post-70732703790109134442009-08-17T04:03:32.796-07:002009-08-17T04:03:32.796-07:00"Easterners focused much greater attention on..."Easterners focused much greater attention on the eyes". So I guess they are goot at spot a fake smile as the few key signs that distinguish fake smiles from genuine ones are around the eyes. <br /><br />For more info... <br />Take the test "Spot the Fake Smile - BBC":<a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/humanbody/mind/surveys/smiles/" rel="nofollow">http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/humanbody/mind/surveys/smiles/</a> <br />Jump to the results "Spot the Fake Smile" : <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/humanbody/mind/surveys/smiles/index_22.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/humanbody/mind/surveys/smiles/index_22.shtml</a>egogrammenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21605329.post-21690766093404847802009-08-15T01:01:24.223-07:002009-08-15T01:01:24.223-07:00Paper - All participants were shown both Asian and...Paper - All participants were shown both Asian and Caucasian faces, but that's a good point. There generally is a same-race advantage, although that wasn't reported here. Both groups of subjects were selected for having minimal prior experience of other-race faces. However, the authors seem to have treated Chinese and Japanese faces as interchangeable: 12 out of 13 subjects were Chinese, but the images were of Japanese faces.The Neurocritichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08010555869208208621noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21605329.post-50561368142354955642009-08-14T21:04:39.478-07:002009-08-14T21:04:39.478-07:00Question: Were the faces shown to the test subject...Question: Were the faces shown to the test subjects a mixture of Eastern and Western subjects, or were they all Western individuals? If the latter, could that not be why there were more frequent errors? It seems reasonable that if, as argued, facial expressions are not so universal, that one would make more errors in faces from another culture.Paper Handhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10777943011100640226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21605329.post-70563320559671628142009-08-14T06:06:50.214-07:002009-08-14T06:06:50.214-07:00Actually, the Eastern ones seem to be becoming mor...Actually, the Eastern ones seem to be becoming more popular, at least in the online places I hang out. I see quite a bit of ^.^, <.<, and o.O.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com